Comments on: WordPress Menu Management http://ontekusuto.iamronen.com/2010/01/wordpress-menu-management/ Fri, 14 May 2010 15:43:37 -0400 hourly 1 By: Ash Goodman http://ontekusuto.iamronen.com/2010/01/wordpress-menu-management/comment-page-1/#comment-15 Ash Goodman Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:19:25 +0000 http://www.iamronen.com/ontekusuto/?p=264#comment-15 I think including drop down menus as a standard feature is not a good idea, unless there is an easy way for a theme builder to override the dropdown code built in with one of their preference. Otherwise we're stuck with whatever code base is built in. If its jquery and I like jqery fine,. but what if i like mootools, or what if I want to use a different piece of jquery for other effects? I think including drop down menus as a standard feature is not a good idea, unless there is an easy way for a theme builder to override the dropdown code built in with one of their preference. Otherwise we're stuck with whatever code base is built in. If its jquery and I like jqery fine,. but what if i like mootools, or what if I want to use a different piece of jquery for other effects?

]]> By: Dan http://ontekusuto.iamronen.com/2010/01/wordpress-menu-management/comment-page-1/#comment-13 Dan Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:33:54 +0000 http://www.iamronen.com/ontekusuto/?p=264#comment-13 If you allow menus to be added to other menus the same way pages/categories/etc are, you could create your own sub-menus that way and have even more flexibility, since the submenu could be different than the actually hierarchy or pages/categories/etc. If you allow menus to be added to other menus the same way pages/categories/etc are, you could create your own sub-menus that way and have even more flexibility, since the submenu could be different than the actually hierarchy or pages/categories/etc.

]]> By: iamronen http://ontekusuto.iamronen.com/2010/01/wordpress-menu-management/comment-page-1/#comment-14 iamronen Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:41:38 +0000 http://www.iamronen.com/ontekusuto/?p=264#comment-14 Are you suggesting that "menus" be added as another tab in the website contents? That could definitely open up interesting options - but it requires another level of complexity: managing menus. My gut is telling me this is a "keep it simple" moment. One menu is clear, simple, usually all that's really needed... but maybe it's something worth considering as an infrastructure in development? Are you suggesting that "menus" be added as another tab in the website contents?

That could definitely open up interesting options – but it requires another level of complexity: managing menus. My gut is telling me this is a "keep it simple" moment. One menu is clear, simple, usually all that's really needed… but maybe it's something worth considering as an infrastructure in development?

]]> By: Keighl http://ontekusuto.iamronen.com/2010/01/wordpress-menu-management/comment-page-1/#comment-12 Keighl Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:25:02 +0000 http://www.iamronen.com/ontekusuto/?p=264#comment-12 I agree with your last point. WP has the hierarchies already; I feel like folks will expect the menu management to parallel that at least. I agree with your last point. WP has the hierarchies already; I feel like folks will expect the menu management to parallel that at least.

]]> By: iamronen http://ontekusuto.iamronen.com/2010/01/wordpress-menu-management/comment-page-1/#comment-11 iamronen Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:05:25 +0000 http://www.iamronen.com/ontekusuto/?p=264#comment-11 It is tempting to cover children (which is why I mentioned it) but: - I am not convinced it is a core need - I haven't encountered many sites that actually need this. - I am not convinced it is a good approach at all for the web (I feel it's fairly outdated). - It has a potential to open up many small corners and complications which can make a mess for development. - It needs good front-end theme support & implementation - which isn't obvious (to me!) - Maybe by addressing straightforward scenarios which rely on core WordPress capabilities (such as subpages and subcategories) we can provide good enough coverage without unnecessary and unwarranted complications. It is tempting to cover children (which is why I mentioned it) but:
– I am not convinced it is a core need – I haven't encountered many sites that actually need this.
– I am not convinced it is a good approach at all for the web (I feel it's fairly outdated).
– It has a potential to open up many small corners and complications which can make a mess for development.
– It needs good front-end theme support & implementation – which isn't obvious (to me!)
– Maybe by addressing straightforward scenarios which rely on core WordPress capabilities (such as subpages and subcategories) we can provide good enough coverage without unnecessary and unwarranted complications.

]]> By: Keighl http://ontekusuto.iamronen.com/2010/01/wordpress-menu-management/comment-page-1/#comment-10 Keighl Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:33:50 +0000 http://www.iamronen.com/ontekusuto/?p=264#comment-10 I think you've got a great concept for dealing with the children. Ideally, the user should be able have a lot of control over what shows up in the submenus. It seems like leaving out children options would really be stopping short. I think you've got a great concept for dealing with the children. Ideally, the user should be able have a lot of control over what shows up in the submenus. It seems like leaving out children options would really be stopping short.

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